Sunday, September 19, 2010
Helicopter Experience
Tuesday, August 17, 2010
Netgear WNDR3700: Let Me Repeat Myself, Wirelessly
After getting round to replacing our aging home PC late last year, I finally decided to tackle the next step in upgrading our home network, namely upping the transmission speed to 1 Gig. Thanks to the - fast growing - store of digital images we collectively produce, moving those things around really does take up an awful lot of bandwidth and our old Buffalo router only supported 10/100 Ethernet. Therefore, downloading from storage cards and saving the results to a network-attached drive was getting pretty painful, especially now I'm using 16 Gbyte CF cards!
I'll spare you all the extended tale of woe resulting from what I thought should be a simple half-hour job, but suffice it to say that a) the documentation for wireless repeating mode set-up for this unit is pretty much non-existent, b) configuring the two routers to play nicely together uncovers a number of limitations I wasn't aware of going-in and c) I may yet give up and run a cable from the router to the repeater because of poor end-to-end performance. Anyway, for those of you who want to try the same thing, here's how I finally got it going.
Step 1: get the first unit working as yer basic, bog-standard wired router. The provided documentation is OK here but one thing to note is that it will, on start-up, want to look for firmware updates. This was OK for me because I was swapping out a known, working (Buffalo) unit that demonstrably had working Internet access so that process was able to complete OK before going into set-up mode. Mostly, you can leave a lot of stuff in there at the default setting for now and it should basically work, though I should say that I used manual set up and not the provided wizard because I've never had good luck with those things.
Step 2: once working wired, the next step is to make sure you can access the main router wirelessly. Set-up your preferred security options. (I use pretty weak options here because the neighbours are so far away that they won't be able to get any 5 Ghz signal at all, and anyway drive-by Internet theft isn't much of a risk at our house!) One thing to note: once in repeat mode WPS won't work, so don't go relying on it, OK??
Step 3: in wireless repeat mode, there are a bunch of restrictions which you will now need to take into account as we move forwards :
Step 4: Kick-off by getting this device up and running as a wired router, as per step 1 above. The reasons for this are to make sure you have both units at the same firmware revision level and that it's working properly overall. Use the same basic settings (e.g. SSID, pass-key and channel one operation on 2.4 Ghz) entered into the base station.
Step 5: OK, so now we'll add the settings that this device, as a repeater, will work from. The tricky thing here is that each change, made on each separate tab on the administration menu, requires you to hit "apply" before moving on. Alas, that means that some of those changes render the device invisible, especially if you are trying to set it up from a wireless connection! (I wasted a lot of time trying to figure out how to work round that one ...) Therefore, save setting up the Wireless Repeating Function tab for last. (However, if memory serves me then there's one other step that causes problems and that's setting manually your static IP address, 10.0.0.250 in my case. You'll need to enter that directly into the browser you are using for configuration once the setting is applied in order to continue configuring the device.) So in summary, you will a) assign a static IP address to the repeater, b) enter in the MAC address of the base station, i.e. the one that's currently sitting on the floor not connected to anything, right?) and c) tick the box to make this a repeater.
Step 6: Put back the first router in place of the wireless repeater you just configured. All being well, it should be working for both direct wired and wireless connections, exactly as you left it.
Step 7: turn on the repeater while monitoring the configuration of the main router. You should be able to see from the status information that the repeater is seen on the network (look at attached devices for the 10.0.0.250 address).
Step 8: go to your static IP address (i.e. http://10.0.0.250/) and log-in to the repeater. The configuration menus should now show some items as greyed-out and the status information should show that it's operating happily. One thing to note, in my set-up I was getting a reported link speed of only 11 Mbits! Your mileage may vary but it's worth noting that the link quality was reported as "fair" so the radio signal wasn't that bad.
OK, you should now be up-and-running. However, I have to say that this network topology is a bit of a compromise to say the least. I now find that wireless devices, because they like the strongest signal, will attach to the repeater when in fact I want them to be on the base router for maximum throughput on the internal network. At some point, I'll try giving the repeater a separate SSID to see if I can control which devices lock-onto the repeater and which go direct to the base router. After all, a "good" signal at 130 Mb is way better than an "excellent" signal offering all of 11 Mbits! Still, on the plus side then my Internet radio in the garage now gets a signal and we can move around PCs more freely now that there's coverage everywhere.
Postscript:
Robert, a reader of the blog, contacted me to see if I had any additional advice as he was still having some issues getting this to work, albeit with the 3300 model. The exchange, and additional input from Netgear, follows below ...
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The symptom is that when I turn on the repeater, devices that were connecting to the router refuse to connect wirelessly at all. They report that they can’t get an IP address. I may be missing a few pieces of info:
What did you set as your DNS server(s)?
On the Wireless Repeating Function screen, what did you set as the repeater IP address?
One more detail: As you suggested, I was going to turn off DHCP on the repeater as my last step, but as soon as I enabled the repeating function the LAN setup link was greyed out. I assume that turned off the DHCP function but maybe not. Do you know?
Hi Robert,
I am happy to answer questions but should begin by saying that, after just a couple of months running that configuration, I did indeed throw in the towel and ran a cable under the house. The throughput issue and lack of dual band repeating made working that way enough of a pain that drilling holes in the walls and through floor joists didn't see so unattractive all of a sudden!
Therefore, I can't look at my present settings but instead have to rely on memory ... oh dear!
I don't think I changed the main router's gateway address, leaving it to be assigned by my ISP and set however it was when just the main router was connected on its own and working. Just to be clear, under "Basic Settings" I have Internet IP Address set to come from the ISP, as is the DNS address, and don't set those myself (though I have tried the Google open DNS settings in the past to see if lookup were any quicker, which it wasn't). I don't think it matters what shows up in the greyed-out boxes alongside what you see were you to set things manually; i.e. I don't think it's saying that those are the addresses your ISP has assigned.
However, under "LAN Setup" I then have it set to use IP addresses on my house network starting with 10.0.0.1 onwards and have the "use router as DHCP server" box checked. Alongside that, I restrict the range of IP addresses it can issue to 10.0.0.2 to 10.0.0.199. That leaves a small group of addresses, 10.0.0.200 onwards, that are unallocated and I used one of those as the fixed IP addess of the repeater. That should ensure you don't end up with the possibility of duplicate IP addresses being issued and it also means that you can then directly ping the repeater to see what's going on because you always know its fixed IP address (I used 10.0.0.250, for example).
The other thing to try that might help illuminate what's happening is to give the repeater a different SSID. That might make untangling who connects to what a bit easier, as least temporarily until things start behaving.
Hope this helps?
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After getting Netgear support to kick me up to phone support I got the repeater working. First, here are the instructions they sent:
Also, the technician I spoke with said that I can repeat both the 2.4 and 5GHZ bands, but that the range of the 5GHZ band is so low that there’s no point. So I’m just repeating the 2.4 GHZ band. I now have a strong signal and 9 MBPS download speed in rooms that had had no signal before.
Friday, July 16, 2010
Why Is Clothes Shopping So Hard?
I had a spare hour or so between meetings yesterday so decided to head over to Stanford Shopping Center to try and do some clothes shopping.
Thursday, July 8, 2010
Of Mice And Men, But Mostly Mice
As highlighted previously, we are going through some minor remodelling work. So far, the ugly wood cladding from the ceiling has been removed and the ceiling refinished. Also now done, the lamps set into the full-height of the ceiling in the living room have been replaced with 50,000 hour LED items so now we can actually turn the bloody things on without forever fretting about how to replace a blown bulb. Next up, redoing the work surfaces in the kitchen.
Thursday, June 24, 2010
iPad Unlimited
Saturday, June 19, 2010
Monday, June 14, 2010
Spring In Stockholm
Sunday, June 6, 2010
Yosemite #2
Friday, June 4, 2010
Yosemite #1
Thursday, June 3, 2010
2010 ALMS Part II

Largely, I'll spare you all from a sequence of shots of sports cars and allied racing goodies filling up the pages here over the coming days, with sole the exception of the above. This was a 6 hour race which means that by the time it finished (8:30 pm) it was almost completely dark. As you (may) know, I did some racing myself both in the UK and US, but never in the dark, though I did have to run in the rain once without any functioning wipers which was itself, err, interesting, so it's hard to say just how tough that must be.
It would be fascinating, though, to see how the lap times varied as the light changed. My guess is that for the front runners it made little difference. Once you are in the rhythm, by all accounts an important part of endurance racing, it's probably not going to matter as much as one might think. However, spare a thought for the back markers who are now being overtaken by things they probably don't even see until there's a set of extremely bright lights burning into their retinas from the rear-view mirrors, followed immediately by very angry-sounding engine roar as they fly past. Now that would help you stay focused, night-time and all!





